23 Jun
Posted by Alex as Computers, Rants, Windows Tips
I love keeping my hard drives in optimum performance that’s why I always take time to defragment them. I’m running my new laptop on Home Basic (I don’t need the frills of Windows bloatware like Aero) and I’ve decided to do a bit of maintenance and organize my files and give it a good defragmentation. But since I still don’t have another freeware that’s Vista compatible to do the job, I resorted to Vista’s built-in Defrag. And look what I saw:

Wow. Simplified? Entirely dumbed down and literally dumb! No features to choose which hard drives you’d want defragmented. No option to exclude files. And no progress bars! Yeah sure it says to use the command line “defrag.exe” to have more features but who’d want to look. At least XP’s interface kept me entertained with the progress bar!
What’s worse is that it lost me a good 1GB of storage in my OS partition! I mean totally WTF!!! I tried Disk Cleaner and even deleted the shadow files and restore points hoping that the good gig just went there. Alas, to no avail. Defragmenting mysteriously lost me 1GB of space!
Damn you, Windows Vista! If I only had enough money, I would really have gotten me a Mac!
12 Responses
Arcestaff
June 23rd, 2007 at 7:21 am
1Lol…the vista defragger is really dumbed down. I didn’t even bother after my first encounter with it. I got Diskeeper Pro, ran a manual defrag once with all the optimization options enabled, and have since left it on the auto defrag mode. Works like a charm. The user interface and options for defragging are light years ahead of the vista defrag ‘utility’. I don’t know why MS made theirs so nasty and a pain to use, that too in their ‘new’ OS! It’s a step backward from the XP defragger. I’ve also heard that it takes way too long to defrag a drive compared to the third party defraggers like Diskeeper.
A Tentative Personal Finance Blog
June 23rd, 2007 at 8:50 am
2How’d you lose a gig of space? It’s not even that bad though, in the world of terabyte hard drives.
Alex
June 23rd, 2007 at 4:46 pm
3@Arcestaff: Dumb and dumber I guess. I’m thinking of getting me O&O Defrag Pro. I’ve used it in the office before and I really loved it. It might be worth the $40+ instead of sticking with Vista’s default dumb bastard.
@A Tentative Personal Finance Blog: I don’t know. I checked everything. My page files, temporary folders and wasn’t able to locate the missing gig. My laptop’s with a 120GB drive so I guess the gig’s still worth a bit.
I got it back, though, and you might want to know how. I pasted a file into that drive and voila! The disk space came back up. I guess it’s with the defrag moving files and Vista can’t even properly count free space anymore. Really dumb if you ask me. :p
Now if I only have some splurge money to get me a Mac. Hah.
Download: TweakVista Public BETA
June 23rd, 2007 at 5:13 pm
4[...] I’m still fuming with Vista’s Defrag and my lost-and-found gigabyte of hard drive space and I’m stuck with it. I would’ve wanted to “upgrade” [...]
Brad Isaac
June 23rd, 2007 at 6:55 pm
5Although not the prettiest interface you might want to try JKDefrag
Open source defragmenter
http://www.kessels.com/JkDefrag/index.html
Alex
June 23rd, 2007 at 9:24 pm
6Hey thanks, Brad. I might try it out. Feature it here too if it works great.
I’ve tried this out with XP and works okay. Not like commercial ones like O&O though. First time I’ll try it out with Vista though.
Arcestaff
June 24th, 2007 at 11:34 am
7Alex, I tried the big 3- O&O, PD and Diskeeper before I finally bought my DK Pro license. I asked around on some of the tech forums; the Vista defragger seems to be universally hated (Hello MSFT, are you listening?) and most of the members recommended Diskeeper. But I wanted to try out all three for myself before I blew $$$ on any of them.
On my system, O&O used to defrag the slowest, Perfectdisk was faster and Diskeeper was the fastest. Ofcourse, the conditions under which I evaluated them were not 100% identical, but good enough for me to get a fairly accurate idea.
All were MUCH faster than the vista defragger, all had progress charts, lots of options etc. I liked the UI and performance of Diskeeper the best, so I went with it. Also, Diskeeper seems like the standard recommendation when it comes to a defragger, so I figured I wouldn’t go wrong. So far, it seems to have been the right decision.
Good luck with your selection.
PS: I’ve heard of JKdefrag before, but after looking through their forums, it seems to have some bugs. I am not sure I want to trust my data to an unproven product. Unlike most freeware utilities, I have been a bit wary of some of these freeware defraggers- they usually promise more than they can deliver, and they play around directly with my data on the harddrive. This makes me a bit uncomfortable.
Alex
June 24th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
8Thanks for the heads up, Arcestaff. I might do some tests next time of my own (before I also spend my cold hard cash).
I’ll keep your recommendation in mind.
whitefly
August 2nd, 2007 at 4:21 pm
9Know that you use Diskeeper. I bet you can’t use parential controls settings anymore?
Download: JkDefrag GUI
August 7th, 2007 at 11:01 pm
10[...] Here’s one more thing that can be added to the mix of candidates to replace Windows Vista’s really dumb Defragmenter. [...]
Chimp
June 4th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
11Hey guys. Great comments here. I read all 10 and decided to download JkDefrag from Brad Isaac (Cheers for the link mate!) I have only just got my new laptop with Vista on it, and whilst defragging I lost nearly 2 gig. Thanks to JkDefrag, I managed to recover an amazing 7 gig!! Happy? I’m over the moon. Cheers again Brad. Hope it works for you!!
Shawn
July 10th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
12ya but you shouldnt lose space when you trying to gain it lol
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